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Help me out with an alternate history scenario.

Alternate histories where Germany won the Second World War are pretty common - off the top of my head I can think of Robert Harris's 'Fatherland', Philip K. Dick's 'The Man in the High Castle' and that Star Trek episode with Joan Collins in it*. However, the scenario I need help with is one where Germany won the First World War.

What has happened is that the war of attrition of 1915 to 1917 dragged on into a stalemate. The United States stayed out of the war. The Russian Revolution happened as it had happened in our timeline. Germany was able to reduce British industrial capacity through Zeppelin raids. German U-Boats cut off the flow of raw materials from the British Empire. And slowly Germany was able to advance through France.

Britain and what is left of France and the rest of the allies surrender to Germany in 1934. Southern Britain is a lawless place with much of its infrastructure destroyed. Many people have fled to the north. The Royal Family has moved to Canada. Under the terms of the surrender, Ireland has been granted independence, guaranteed by Germany. Large parts of France have been carved off as vassal states of Germany, most notably Burgundy. The same has happened to Italy, with Lombardy now a separate kingdom subject to the German Kaiser.

That's about as far as I got. My question is: what does the world look like in 1935, with Germany the dominant European power?







* Well, ok that isn't actually set after a German victory, but it does show how the non-death of an American pacifist leads to German victory.

Date: 2013-02-18 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eledonecirrhosa.livejournal.com
Aaargh! Typed a long reply then LJ ate it!

Short version... Russian Revolution caused Russians to go home and German troops from Eastern Front to be sent to Western Front to give the Allies a kicking. Could you beef up that kicking to give them victory?

Book suggestion - The Kaiser's Holocaust by David Olusoga and Casper Erichsen goes into the nastier aspects of 19th & pre WW1 German colonialism in southern Africa. Some inspiration there too?

Date: 2013-02-18 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] king-pellinor.livejournal.com
The March 1918 offensive very nearly came to victory anyway. According to Haig's diaries (which I was reading recently, though I think it was only extracts) the French at least were getting very worried about Paris, and there was a debate about whether the BEF should fall back on the Channel or stick with the French army when the breakthrough came.

Date: 2013-02-18 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
Yes, so I think I need some reason why Germany took so long to finally win. I'm going with flu and expanding the war to the colonies rather more than was the case in real history.

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